Positive Reinforcement is the stupidest thing ever.

"BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather" (bugeyedacura) 12/18/2013 at 18:36 • Filed to: None

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My wife and her family give their dogs treats every time they're bad so that they act right. All the dog learns is that they get rewarded for bein bad. Therefore, they're little terrors!

The dogs are outsmarting the stupid people who own them.

I've never used positive reinforcement with any of my dogs and they love AND respect me. Shocker!

Cajun Ginger > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 12/18/2013 at 18:37

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I see. So the dogs have trained the humans.

Doge_Supreme drives a BRZ > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 12/18/2013 at 18:39

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I feed my parents miniature donkeys candy so they follow my mom around while shes out with our horses and try to dig through her pockets looking for more. They act like crack addicts looking for a fix.

Barbarian772 > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 12/18/2013 at 18:39

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I'm pretty sure that's not how positive reinforcement actually works...

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 12/18/2013 at 18:40

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They're doing it wrong.

Positive reinforcement works when you reinforce positive behavior.

They've done the opposite, and it sounds like they need to go back to school and learn about the difference between positive and negative.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 12/18/2013 at 18:42

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Well they think when they lead them away and stop whatever it is they're doing that it's time to treat. Or they use treats to "distract" them.

Aaron James > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 12/18/2013 at 18:42

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I thought positive reinforcement meant rewarding them when they do well, Seems silly to reward bad behavior

Takuro Spirit > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 12/18/2013 at 18:43

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Have a seat.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 12/18/2013 at 18:44

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I'm pretty sure any so-called expert dog-trainer with a Youtube account would do it exactly the opposite of what they're doing.

Stupidru > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 12/18/2013 at 18:52

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I positively reinforce my 1-year old pup and he seems to be doing alright.

TSLA > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 12/18/2013 at 18:54

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POSITIVE ENERGY!

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Stupidru 12/18/2013 at 18:58

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I'm not saying be mean to them. But making it rain treats when they're assholes doesn't help.
You're probably doin it right.

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > Doge_Supreme drives a BRZ 12/18/2013 at 18:59

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must.

not.

Grammar Nazi.

WHY DO YOU FEED YOUR PARENTS DONKEY CANDY?

Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 12/18/2013 at 18:59

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We are sending 2 P71s to your residence for questioning. Please do not resist.

Doge_Supreme drives a BRZ > beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard 12/18/2013 at 19:01

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sorry missed an apostrophe. parent's donkey

M54B30 > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 12/18/2013 at 19:05

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Maybe if they did it right it'd work better. I got my Jack Russell @ 6 months from a shelter and he was good to go. Never had an issue with him. Positive reinforcing worked best for my pit bull. I found her starving on the street so she'd do anything for food. The more she did right, the more treats she got. Worked out well. Anything she interpreted as violent or aggressive (yelling, smacking her ass, other stuff I don't do with dogs, etc...) she'd freak out, run, hide, and be MIA the next couple hours.

Oddly enough my wife bought these crazy Christmas things for them to wear. They love the noise it makes, I feel like they're being punished...

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > M54B30 12/18/2013 at 19:11

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They're so cute z:9

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > Doge_Supreme drives a BRZ 12/18/2013 at 19:26

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Parents' donkey would also be acceptable ;)

Grammar Nazi AWAAAAAAY

TheKingOfBirds > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 12/18/2013 at 21:35

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Technically, positive reinforcement is adding something to the animal's environment (such as a whistle or clicker or your car's seatbelt dinger) and negative reinforcement is taking something away (attention, favorite toy). You can use positive reinforcement to do terrible things (like beat the shit out of him) or negative to do nice things (take off the shock collar). It's all kind of convoluted and you can talk around in circles for days about it, but as a professional I can assure you they are doing it wrong. When you reward (which they are doing) a behavior you increase the likelihood that it will occur again.

Dead_Elvis, Inc. > Doge_Supreme drives a BRZ 12/19/2013 at 00:34

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Which parent owns the donkey? Why not joint custody?